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64 ：名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい ：2010/09/10(金) 19:30:13 ID:UiJ3dIzQ0 (3 回発言)
早売り買った
港浦が編集長の机の上にＰＣＰのアニメ化の企画書があることに気づく
相沢や服部が曰く早い時期でのオファーは珍しくないが
やるかやらないかは編集長次第とのこと
編集長のＧＯサインが出た場合のみ作家に伝える決まりなので港浦は黙っていることにする
山久はＰＣＰはアニメにするには地味すぎるという意見
吉田はアニメより１０時枠のドラマ向きと言う意見
とりあえず今はドラマＣＤで十分という結論に
サイコーとシュージンが仕事場に行く途中で偶然出会う
2人で公園に立ち寄ると子供達がＰＣＰごっこして遊んでるのを見かける
シュージンは上手くいきすぎて不安になる
サイシューの仕事場
森屋は手の空いている時間にネームを書いている
白鳥が内容を聞くとそれは教えられない言われる
サイコーは白鳥になんで自分の作品を描かないのか聞く
白鳥は自分は絵を描くのが好きなだけで何を描いていいのかさっぱりだと言う
シュージンはまず何でもいいから好きなものを題材に描くようにアドバイス
アシスタントたちが帰った後服部が来る
ドラマＣＤの第１稿をサイシューに見せる
シュージンはキャラはとらえられているが肝心の完全犯罪が駄目と言う
服部曰く作者本人もシュージンのようには完全犯罪をつくれない言っている
それで、シュージンに完全犯罪部分をつくってほしいとのこと
シュージンはそれを承諾
白鳥が帰宅すると４匹の犬が出迎える
白鳥の父親は化粧品会社の社長で金持ち
両親と父親の会社で働く姉がいる
白鳥は部屋でシュージンのようにまず文章から入ることにする
後日シュージンにネームを見せる
内容は人を信じられない主人公羅歩田（らぶた）くんと人の気持ちが読める犬ピース（一番白鳥になついている犬の名前）
シュージンは簡単な設定で話が作られていて、わかりやすくていいが主人公のキャラが弱くこれでは犬が主人公だと言う。
キャラの気持ちを全面に押し出すこと、ジャンプらしく悪人を倒す話にすることなどをアドバイスする
シュージンはアイディアはいいので少し直して服部さんに見てもらったほうがいいと言うが白鳥はまずシュージンのＯＫが出てからにすると言う
９月２４日金曜　服部と打ち合わせ
今週の順位は５位、４位はナチュラルだがこっちはシリーズの２話目なので問題はない
そして、ドラマＣＤに続いて小説版も決まったと言う
サイコーがあとはアニメだと言うと
服部がＰＣＰはアニメにはならないと言い２人は驚く
終わり

65 ：名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい ：2010/09/10(金) 19:32:35 ID:UiJ3dIzQ0 (3 回発言)
>>63
白鳥のマンガの内容はキャラの名前だけが出てきた
どんな話なのかは不明

Miura notices the anime proposals for PCP on the editor in chief's desk.
Aizawa and Hattori say that it's not rare to receive offers this early on, but it's up to the editor in chief whether or not they accept it or not.
Miura keeps silent about it as he knows that there is a rule that the mangaka are only told about the offer should the editor in chief give the go ahead.
Yamahisa feels that if PCP is turned into an anime, it would be too ordinary.
Kichida feels that it is more suited to a 10-minute drama series rather than an anime.
They reach the conclusion that for the time being, it's enough to have it as a drama CD.
Saikou and Shuujin happen to meet on the way to their studio.
They stop by a park and happen to see a bunch of kids playing PCP (TN: as in, pretending they are PCP characters)
Shuujin is worried that things seem to be going too well.
Saikou & Shuujin's studio.
Moriya is drawing some names in his free time.
When Shiratori asks him what it's about, he says he can't say
Saikou asks Shiratori why he doesn't draw some manga himself
Shiratori says that he loves to draw, but he has no clue what to draw.
Shuujin gives him advice, saying that anything is fine so just draw something you like as the subject
Hattori comes after the assistants have left.
He shows them the draft for the first drama CD
Shuujin says that although it has managed to capture the characters well, it didn't fare that well in that regard when it came to the essential idea of "perfect crime"
Hattori says that the writer too, just as Shuujin said, was unable to think of any "perfect crimes", so he wants Shuujin to think of the "perfect crimes" for him
Shuujin agrees
4 dogs comes out to meet Shiratori when he arrives home.
Shiratori's dad is the company president of a cosmetics company, so he's rich
His family includes his parents and his little sister who works at the father's company.
Shiratori, in his room, starts from writing a script just like Shuujin does.
The next day he shows the name to Shuujin.
The contents are about the protagonist, Rabuta-kun who does not trust people, and a dog named Peace (the name of the dog Shiratori is closest to) that is able to read people's emotions.
Shuujin says that the simple setting allows a story to be created, and it's easy to understand but the protagonist is weak so the dog should be the protagonist.
He gives Shiratori advice saying that it'd make for a Jump-like manga wherein the bad guys are defeated by having the dog bring their emotions to light
Shuujin says the idea is good, so it'd be best to work on it a bit more then let Hattori take a look at it. Shiratori says that he would do that after he gets the green light from Shuujin on it as well.
Friday, September 24, meeting with Hattori
This week they ranked in at #5, +Natural was #4 however it's not a problem because this was the second chapter in the arc
And he tells them that after the drama CD, it's been decided that there'll be a novel
Saikou says that next will be an anime
Hattori says that PCP won't become an anime, and the two of them are shocked.
The end

The actual story of Shiratori's manga is unknown, just the names of the characters

64 ：名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい：2010/12/03(金) 01:25:17 ID:S0J0oh6cO
とりあえずいつもの人が更新してた奴をコピペ

サイコーが「俺を殴ってくれ。
「恋太」やれって……やっぱり俺が間違ってたと思う」などと言い、どうせ殴るなら思いっきりやろうと公園で殴り合いをする。
白鳥は編集部にすごく心配されていたが、友達に漫画家志望がいるからその人にアシやってもらうことに決定。
他の漫画家達も読み切りの仕上げに入る。
秋名は八本木のキャラデザが気に入らず中井にお願いしたいというが、
港浦は八本木に修正してもらい八本木に描かせることにする。
そして見本誌のエイジの「LOVE力 A TO Z」を読むが、
シュージンの反応は「これ面白くないよな？」で終了

Saikou: Please punch me. In the end, I think it was wrong for me to do "Koita". Since you're going to punch me, let's go all out
So they go to a park and punch each other.
The editorial department is really worried about Shiratori, but he says that he has a friend who wants to become a mangaka, and it is decided that that person will become his assistant.
The other mangaka are also finishing up their one-shots.
Akina does not like Happongi's character designs, and says she would like to request for Nakai instead. However Miura decides to ask Happongi to revise them and let him continue providing the artwork.
And they get to read the sample magazine of Eiji's "LOVE Power A to Z", but Shuujin's reaction is "This isn't very interesting, is it?", and the chapter ends

277 ：名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい：2010/12/09(木) 21:56:26 ID:i8K4X5u+0
バクマン。はエイジの漫画は喧嘩シーンは面白いが、恋愛漫画として期待して読むと面白いとは言えない。
恋の心情が描けていない。「LOVE力AtoZ」はその週のアンケートでも9位だった。蒼樹さんお読み切りの
「神様がくれた…」はその週のアンケートで2位。亜城木夢叶の「ささやかな時」はその週9位。平丸の
「僕には通じない」はその週で3位。結局最終のアンケート結果は以下の通り
1位：「神様がくれた…」蒼樹紅 259票
2位：「僕には通じない」平丸一也 188票
3位：「少年E少女B」新井貴作 172票
4位：「ささやかな時」亜城木夢叶 114票
5位：「LOVE力 A to Z」新妻エイジ 106票
6位：「殺意由意」福田真太 95票
7位：「4春期」秋名＋八本木 フキダシに隠れて票数不明

これからはPCPをやりながら少しでも上を目指せるように力を溜めておくことにした。「僕達21ですから」。
福田は結果にガッカリするが「ロードレーサーGIRI」のアニメ化が決定した。
一方、平丸と蒼樹さんはお茶会の日になった。両担当者も一緒に行く予定なのに蒼樹さんも平丸も
どちらも電話に出ない。吉田氏「行くぞ山久　これは事件だ！！」で終わり

The quarrel scene in Eiji's manga was interesting, but for someone who reads it expecting a romance manga, it couldn't be considered interesting.
The emotions of love were not portrayed. "LOVE Chikara A to Z" ranked #9 for the week it ran in. Aoki-san's one-shot "Kami-sama ga Kureta..." ranked #2 for the week it ran in. Ashirogi Muto's "Sasayaka na Toki" ranked #9 for the week it ran in. Hiramaru's "Boku ni wa Tsuujinai" ranked #3 for the week it ran in. In the end, the results are as follows:

#1 - "Kami-sama ga Kureta..." by Aoki Kou, 259 votes
#2 - "Boku ni wa Tsuujinai" by Hiramaru Kazuya, 188 votes
#3 - "Shounen E Shoujo B" by Arai Kisaku, 172 votes
#4 - "Sasayaka na Toki" by Ashirogi Muto, 114 votes
#5 - "LOVE Chikara A to Z" by Niizuma Eiji, 106 votes
#6 - "Satsui Yui" by Fukuda Shinta, 95 votes
#7 - "Shi Shunki" by Akina + Happongi, number of votes was blocked by speech bubble

They decide to continue doing PCP as they have been doing, and slowly improve as they aim ever higher. "Because we're already 21."
Fukuda is dejected at the results, but "Road Racer GIRI" has had an anime announced.
On the other hand, the day has come for Hiramaru and Aoki-san's tea party. Both their editors also are supposed to go along but neither Aoki-san or Hiramaru pick up their phones. Yoshida: "We've got to go, Yamahisa, this spells trouble!!" and the chapter ends.

La Scena della lite nel manga di Eiji era interessante, ma per chi lo legge ed è in attesa di un manga romantico, non può essere considerato interessante.
Le emozioni d'amore non sono state dipinte. Nelle rispettive settimane in cui sono usciti i One-Shot i risultati sono i seguenti:
"Love dalla A alla Z"- posizione 9° (Eiji)
"Kami-sama ga Kureta"- posizione 2° (Aoki)
"Sasayaka na Tok"- posizione 9° (Ashirogi Muto)
"Boku ni wa Tsuujinai"-posizione 3° (Hiramaru)
Quindi alla fine, questi sono i seguenti risultati:
# 1 - "Kami-sama ga Kureta ..." da Aoki Kou, 259 voti
# 2 - "Boku ni wa Tsuujinai" di Hiramaru Kazuya, 188 voti
# 3 - "E Shoujo Shounen B" da Arai Kisaku, 172 voti
# 4 - "Sasayaka na Toki" di Ashirogi Muto, 114 voti
# 5 - "LOVE Chikara A alla Z" da Niizuma Eiji, 106 voti
# 6 - "Satsui Yui" di Fukuda Shinta, 95 voti
# 7 - "Shi Shunki" di Akina Happongi, numero dei voti è stata bloccata (dalla rivista?).

Mashiro e Takagi decido di continuare su quella strada per PCP, e migliorare lentamente perchè vogliono arrivare sempre più in alto. "Perchè siamo già 21"(non so cosa intenda xD)
Fukuda è battuto nei risultati, però gli è stato annunciato l'anime.
E' arrivato il giorno del Tea-Party tra Hiramaru e Aoki.
Sono dovuti andare anche i loro editori, ma nè Aoki nè Hiramaru ritirano i telefoni. Yoshida dice: "Dobbiamo andare, Yamahisa, questo rovina l'incantesimo (XD)!" e il capitolo finisce.

Verification: pending
Source: 2ch

遅くなってスマソ
道端で拾った紙切れを簡単に
っていってもあんま中身ないけど

この後PCPをどうしていきたいのかの議論
シュージンは邪道のバトルもの、といっても暴力がない心理戦のバトルものにしたがっていた
いっぽう、編集部への投稿で何話分も持ち込んだつわものが
サイコーは酷評するが、シュージンはその投稿の内容が自分が展開したいストーリーに似ていた
ストーリーの路線の波長があっていたことからその投稿を参考にしてシュージンが話を作ろうとするところで終わり

962 ：名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい：2010/12/28(火) 00:13:37 ID:WaXmX5R
あまりの内容だったがじゃあこれも本バレなんだな

今後の方針を話し合う。シュージンは「邪道バトル」シリアスな笑いを入れ特殊能力や技を出さない邪道バトル
殴る蹴るがない心理バトルを目指すという。
一方、編集部のトレジャーに10話分もの原稿を投稿してきた者がいて編集部はその話題で持ちきりだった。
服部さんがその原稿をサイコー達に渡す。
内容は「エニグマにそっくりじゃん　ダメだろこれ…」とサイコーが第一印象で語るが
シュージンがやりたかった邪道バトルものそのものだった。
その漫画の内容は、
教室に閉じこめられて謎の「カミ」の1stゲームがはじまり、生き残った1人だけが教室から出られるというもの。
本心にもないことを言うと風船がはじけるように消えて死んでしまう。
「お…俺がやりたかったの　こういうのかもしれない」「あっそうか…邪道の心理バトル…」



969 ：名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい：2010/12/28(火) 01:56:09 ID:GMmIf0lEO
バレブログから転載
PCPは連載50回超えたので連載表彰式参加してた。そこで平丸はラッコが200回超えてたから登場。顔にやついてて上機嫌だった

つかエニ熊は未来日記とエルフェンリートのパクリとあれほど(ry)
未来日記は来年アニメ化だしエニ熊詰んだだろ

the first 2 support each other in that the duo discuss what to do with PCP and supposedly shuujin is writing a new battle manga about heretics and special powers etc, and saikou actually says it's 'similar to Enigma' which strikes me as a little odd. The last One says PCP is past 50 chapters so there is some sort of commendation ceremony. hiramaru also appears because otter got past 200 chapters. Which is true, I don't know ~.~

323 ：名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい：2011/01/13(木) 23:05:41 ID:WYADH1nMP
バクマン。はサイコーは主人公のキャラ立て、名前すら出ていないジャンプ否定漫画だと言う。設定は唐突と言うが、
シュージンは科学的根拠はいらないと言う。ほとんどが「シンジツの教室」の漫画の内容。主人公がしゃべらないほうが
いいと言ったため、神による質問タイムになる。学級委員に立候補した理由を成績が良くなるから、人の上に立ちたい
からなど本当のことを言わせて本性をあばかせて楽しんでいる。副学級委員の佐伯さんは良いクラスにしたいと思った
からと正直に答え生き延びる。この人がヒロインっぽい。番号順にクラスの女子の体操服を盗んだか質問をしていき、
7番目の人が犯人で、死のうと思って質問の前に嘘を言ったが、教室から消えたいという本心からの発言なので認められ
なかった。29人になったところでペアを作り、残った一人が死ぬとどんどんルールを追加・変更していく。主人公の高橋は
佐伯さんとペアになった。ペアの片方が死ぬとペアも死ぬ。ペアになろうとしたが体力がないからペアにならない、
最後は殺し合いになると発言したものが他の人たちに縛り付けられてペアになれずに破裂したところでとりあえず漫画終了。

その後はサイコーたちの台詞のみで、主人公含む8人が脱出に成功したが、結局全員殺された。1stよりも2nd、3rdのほうが
面白い内容だったらしい。応募者の名前は七峰透という18歳の少年だが、サイコーはこの名前を見たことがあると言う。
「シンジツの教室」を描いた人物は、「TRAP」を連載していたときに毎週ファンレターをくれていた中学生だった　というところで終了。

Saikou is creating his protagonist, and says that it is a manga that goes against the conventions of Jump and doesnt even have a name/names are not even mentioned (TN: I am about as confused as you are, this sentence is weird and without enough context, I can't decide what would be the best translation). The setting is said to be very abrupt, but Shuujin says that there doesn't need to be any scientific basis to it.

Most of this chapter was depicting the contents of "Shinjitsu no Kyoushitsu". Since the protagonist said that it was better not to speak, it became a time for questions from god. He is having fun uncovering people's true natures, such as making them say things like they improved their grades because they wanted to run for class rep, or they wanted to stand/rule over others hence they ran for class rep etc. The vice-class rep, Saiki-san (TN: no yomigana/reading given, so I'm guessing what the kanji should be read as) thinks to herself that she wants to get into a good class, so she answers truthfully and lives. This person looks like the heroine of the story. The question "Did you steal the gym clothes of the class girls?" is asked to everyone in the class in register order, and the 7th person is the culprit. He thinks he wants to die, so he tells a lie, but because his heart's true desire was to disappear from the classroom when he gave his answer, it was not accepted. When they are left with 29 people, they form into pairs, and the last person remaining dies. And like this, they add rules and change rules as they go along. The protagonist Takahashi is paired with Saiki-san. If one of the pair dies, his/her partner dies too. The manga ends where there are some people who try to form pairs with others, but because they are physically weak, they are unable to find a partner because in the end, it is said that eventually they will have to kill each other and these people will be tied to others and without having formed pairs, will be exploded. (TN: this sentence is excessively long and confusing, I don't quite get it myself...)

After that, it's all just lines from Saikou and the rest, and they say that 8 people including the protagonist make it out, but in the end all of them are killed. More so than the 1st and 2nd, the 3rd was the most interesting. The contestant's name is Shichimine Tooru (TN: no yomigana/reading given, so I'm guessing what the kanji should be read as), an 18 year old boy, and Saikou says that he's seen this name before. The chapter ends with them realising that the person who drew "Shinjitsu no Kyoushitsu" is a middle schooler who had written fanletters every week to Ashirogi when they had been doing "TRAP".

472 ：名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい：2011/01/20(木) 19:52:47 ID:9vemxhAgO
お、久しぶりに書けた。ちょい前までここでネタバレしてたけど規制長引いてなかなか来れんかったわ

帰宅したらもう少し詳細書くからとりあえず簡易で

ファンレターの少年と編集部が対面した。
シンジツの教室は佳作にも入らなかったが、ジャンプにあったネームを
書かせるようにして他社に渡さないようにした。
しかし後日、ブログにてスキャンしてあった原稿を公開した。
そのおかげで編集部には何故入賞しないかなど批難が殺到、ニュース出も取り上げられて一気に話題になった。
最後のコマを見る限るではこうなることをわかってわざとやっているように見えた。

The boy who wrote the fan letters had a meeting with the editors.
They tell him that although Shinjitsu no Kyoushitsu does not even get an honorable mention, to please draw a name suiting Jump and not give it to any other company.
But the next day, he posts scans on his blog, thus making his manuscript public.
This triggers a flood of complaints to the editorial division asking why he did not win anything, and it became a hot topic, even making the news.
In the last panel, it looks like he knew this would happen and had purposely done this (posting scans).

b- bubble
s- sfx
x- box
a- aori/everything else


------------------------------
01
a1: Page 117 Fan Letter and Blog
letter:
To Ashirogi Muto-sensei
Congratulations on the serialisation of "Detective TRAP"!! I am very happy for you. I have been a huge fan of Ashirogi-sensei since I read "Money and Intelligence" in Akamaru Jump! Both "Money and Intelligence" and "Detective TRAP" are different from other manga in Jump, and I like the darker atmosphere they have. I have been drawing stuff that is sort of like manga since I was in my sixth year of elementary school, but now I'm determined to seriously become a mangaka like Ashirogi-sensei.
a2: The writer then has now become an author!?
b1: The first one we received was this one, when "TRAP" got serialised...
b2: So he actually noticed that it wasn't really you usual "Jump" fare
b3: "become a mangaka like Ashirogi-sensei", huh.......
b4: And the last one we received was when "Tanto" got serialised... Here he's pointing out why it sucks...
b5: WHAT THE?
b6: "Gag mangas do not suit Ashirogi-sensei. I'm disappointed"...
b7: Ah, I remember that. He said something like if we keep on writing gag manga, he would have one less rival to contend with in the future, right?
b8: Yeah, yeah...

02
b1: He's been aiming to become a mangaka, just like we did since we were in our third year of middle school......... He only began for real when he was in his second year of middle school...
b2: When I read this fan letter back then, I never expected him to really submit such a high quality piece of work
b3: Moreover, the fact that it was Ashirogi Muto's works that inspired him to create those makes me so happy
b4: He probably submitted his work to Treasure this time precisely because he knew we were judging them
b5: Makes me wanna support him...
on manuscript: Classroom of Truth
b6: He does, and he makes me think that we too have gotta work even harder
b7: If you're talking about how morally ambiguous it is, then this is better than both "TRAP" and "PCP"
b8: !

03
b1: Though I do feel it's too morally ambiguous......
b2: We're a two-man team, but this guy is at so high a level just on his own, it's amazing
b3: Am I right to say that there's actually a theme running through this?
b4: Theme?
b5a: Humans have to help each other or they can't survive
b5b: He's depicting that paradoxically
b6: ... I didn't read that much into it when I read it, but you're right...... The self-centered guys are all dropping off like flies......
b7a: I want our work to compete with a serialised manga by someone like him......
b7b: I feel motivated
b8: Yeah
x1: And so, they submitted the judging sheet to the editorial division, having ranked "Classroom of Truth" as number one

04
x1: 22nd June, Monday. May Treasure Judging Meeting
b1a: I have no complaints as to how interesting "Classroom of Truth" was
b1b: I believe it will attract readers because of the questionable feeling it gives off
b2a: Got a way with words, huh, Kosugi-kun......
b2b: Ashirogi-kun gave it top marks too, and it can go straight for serialisation regardless of whether it wins the top prize or only makes runner-up
b3: But this isn't something you can put in "Shounen Jump"
b4: You've gotta do something like this or you won't even make an impact or be able to survive, right?
b5: I know, right?
b6: They have talent
b7: I know, right?
b8: Who will be in charge of him?
b9: Ummm.........

05
b1a: Since my team's been delegated to take charge of all the final candidates of this month's Treasure...
b1b: My first choice would be Kosugi, but...
b2: Of course, I'd gladly take on being Nanamine-kun's editor
b3a: How lucky for you, Kosugi
b3b: Getting to be the editor for a big newcomer like this though you just got employed here
b4: I know, right? I've really got good luck
b5: Truth be told, this guy's at the level where he can write a name for serialisation
b6: Eh
b7: However, if we let him do that, he's got to make it something that can be published in "Shounen Jump"
b8: Just as I thought...... Artwork, organisation, dialogue, I have no complaints about any of that. But it's just not suited for Shounen
b9: But our readership's average age is now 18 and above, isn't it...?
b10a: Even so, it doesn't mean we can thus put out a manga that is more Seinen
b10b: If the average age is 18 and above, we've got to bring it lower. We have to make the effort to do that

06
top: ☆ BAKUMAN. TV Anime on air on NHK Education Channel every Saturday, 6pm!!
b1: B... But it'd be really difficult to tweak this series to make it more suited to the shounen demographic
b2: That's precisely the job of an editor - the discuss how to do that with the author, isn't it?
b3a: To make him produce a work that's more suited for shounen, or to introduce him directly to "Young Jump"......
b3b: I don't want to let his talent fall into the hands of another company
b4: ......... We've got the manuscript with us, and I don't think we need to worry that he has more copies of it...
b5: I think it's still best to award him a runner-up prize and publish it...
b6: That won't work. Heishi is right, it wouldn't be fitting of "Shounen Jump" to give this work a prize
b7: .........
b8a: Do your best, Kosugi... Nevermind another company, it'd be a big blow to you even if he brought his work to "Young Jump"
b9: Okay

07
b1: Ah, it looks like the judging for Treasure is done
b2: That piece! "Classroom of Truth"! How did it do?
b3: It didn't get further than the final selection
b4: Fuu, that's great... If that got serialised, "True human" would be crushed
b5: It's too early to be happy
b6: Eh?
b7a: Of course, if you compare him to Shizuka-kun and Ashirogi-kun, he's at their level or maybe even above it
b7b: The editor-in-chief even said "Get him to write a name for serialisation that suits a Shounen magazine"
b8: !
b9: Who's going to be his editor?
b10: Kosugi from my team, of course. He has the least experience
b11: !

08
b1: Just when I thought I'd finally made it by getting a job in the Jump editorial division, I get to be the editor of a rookie, whom everyone's expecting a lot out of......
b2: I'm so lucky... But I wonder what kind of person he is, drawing a manga like this...
paper: Nanamine Tooru | Tokyo City 18 years old | Cellphone 090-
sfx: *ring ring*
b3: Hello
b4: I'm Kosugi from "Weekly Shounen Jump"
b5: !
b6: Ah! Yes! It's me! YAAAAAYYYYY! I got the Treasure prize, didn't I! AWESOMEEEEEE! I was so sure I'd get it!
b7: N... No, I'm sorry, but you only made it to the final selection
b8: No waaaaaay! Are you seriouuus!! I was so sure I'd get it...
b9: B... But you're really talented. You could pass off as a pro... It's just that the content was targeted more at adults
b10: AAAHHHH! I just missed it. I was aiming for that, but it was so hard I guess I couldn't pull it off! But I was so sure I'd get it...
a1: So... Somehow he's a lot more cheerful than I expected... It'll be a lot easier this way...

09
b1: But my talent was acknowledged, wasn't it!
b2a: Ah...
b2b: Yes
b3: So... From now on, I'll be your edito.......
b4: EDITOR! Amazing! YAAAAAY! ...... I guess......
b5: Well, I expected all this to happen!
b6: I see... Good...
b7: It isn't good, this is the worst I expected to happen!
b8: A... Anyway, I'd like to meet you and discuss where to go from here. Can you come down to Shueisha?
b9: SURE! RIGHT NOW, IF YOU WANT!
b10a: Ah, I can't!!
b10b: I've got work today! I work as a pizza delivery boy from 6pm to 11pm, and my off days are Friday and Sunday, but if you really want I can ask for some time off
b11a: No, that won't be necessary...... Let's meet on Friday then
b11b: How does 3pm sound?
b12: Got it. At "Jump", I know where that is
b13: He sure talks a lot...
building: Shueisha

10
x1: 25th June, Thursday
b1: Alright, this week's was interesting, good job
b2: Hattori-san, how did the selection for Treasure go?
b3: Ah, I forgot to tell you there was one honourable mention
b4: Eh!? Honourable mention... I thought it'd make it higher than that...
b5: Wait, you're talking about "Classroom of Truth", right!?
b6: No, the honorable mention went to "Bloodstained Ping Pong"
b7: Eh
b8: Why...
b9: Well, it's nothing new. Just like when Shizuka-kun got the Niizuma Eiji prize, it was because his work wasn't suited for "Shounen Jump"
b10a: There are also people who submit works that should have been brought to a Seinen magazine instead, but their main aim really is to show us what they can do
b10b: A common point would be that they all want to draw for "Shounen Jump"
b11: Even among those, the quality of "Classroom of Truth" is high. In my opinion, he's even better than Shizuka-kun
b12: ! I knew it! You think so too, don't you, Hattori-san?
b13: That's why I told you if you're looking at how morally ambiguous it is, then we lose
b14a: Well, his conceptualisation is a cut above the rest, and the way he handled it was great too
b14b: And the fact that he's only 18 gave me a surprise

11
b1a: ......... Conceptualisation, huh... You're right
b1b: The first game, "Death to those who lie"
b1c: The second game, "Deciding who will die via discussion between a pair who had worked together to escape"
b1d: The third game, "Hide and seek with yourself..."
b2: The stage he created for it was great as well
b3: It made me think once again that in the end, manga is all about ideas
b4a: Of course, "TRAP" was about a detective catching swindlers
b4b: "PCP" is about elementary school kids committing perfect crimes, and I'd thought "this is it!"
b4c: But "Classroom of Truth" has a clearer idea
b5: ......... Don't make it sound like our idea for "PCP" loses out like that
b6: .........
b7a: That's right...
b7b: Especially when it comes to the type of manga you write, which shows things through the story, the setting and ideas are what you are battling with
b7c: And all the more so if you plan to battle with how morally ambiguous your manga is
b8a: ......... Are ideas things that come to you randomly
b8b: Or do they come to you just when you're thinking...?
b9a: It's started again, huh. Well, thinking is a good thing. All the best
b9b: See you
a1: ............ Idea... ... Setting... Morally ambiguous...
b10: .........

12
x1: The next day, Friday
b1: Ah
b2: Are you my editor!?
b3: I'm Nanamine. Pleased to meet you
b4a: Thank you for you call
b4b: I was so happy
b5: I'm Kosugi from "Weekly Shounen Jump". Pleased to meet you
b6a: A namecard!
b6b: Thank you so much
b7: Wow! You're giving me your email address and cellphone number right off the bat! This is different from the rumours!
b8: ...... Rumours?
b9: There are rumours floating around the internet saying that editors don't divulge their cellphone numbers or email addresses so easily, and that it's not even on their name cards! Ahaha!
b10: Ahh, there are many editors that carry name cards that only have the editorial division telephone number on them
b11: Is that sooo! I see, it differs from person to person. Yeah, this is interesting. It might give me another idea!
b12: ......

13
b1a: So, about "Classroom of Truth". You have two options
b1b: (1) Try doing it again using gentler expressions
b1c: (2) Draw something totally different
b2: Please don't say "something totally different" so easily!
b3: I'm a huge fan of Ashirogi-sensei, so the psychological warfare in "Money and Intelligence", "Detective TRAP" and "PCP"!
b4a: Also, when "Rabuta & Peace" was a one-shot, Ashirogi-sensei wrote the story, didn't they!
b4b: That was about people's true feelings and intentions vs their facades. I combined all of that
b5: And kinda stole the setting of Enigma!
b6: Ah, it sounds bad that I'm saying "steal", but at the end of the day, that's what manga's all about!
b7: I read and internalise manga that I like and think are good, and use them to make my own manga with my own style
b8: So even though "Classroom of Truth" is my first submitted work, it's actually a compilation of everything!
b9a: But even though I say that, it still is the first work I drew without abandoning it! Ahaha!
b9b: It may be rude of me to say this, but I thought "Classroom of Truth" would get chosen and get announced with great fanfare!
b9c: I thought that Jump's editorial division would have the guts to do that, but I guess my calculations were off...

14
b1a: I think it's horrible not to have at least the guts to do that!
b1b: You could even say "Jump" is conservative compared to other magazines...
b2: They're really noisy next door...
b3: Speaking of other magazines, you've never brought anything to another company before, have you?
b4: Of course not
b5: In that case, please don't bring any of your works to other magazines...
b6a: Don't say that, please! I want to be serialised in "Jump"!
b6b: And my dream is to meet Ashirogi-sensei and have a conversation with him!
b7: Excuse me
b8: Nanamine-kun
b9: Ah, yes! How do you know my name?
b10: I can tell from the contents of your conversation. You were talking so loudly I could hear everything... Could you keep it down a little? There are other people having meetings here...
b11: Ah! I'm sorry! I thought that since I was in a place like this, I had to speak as clearly as possible with a loud voice!

15
b1: Looks like your meeting's over. Good job
b2: Ah, sorry for the inconvenience earlier
b3: He'll grow. He's cheerful and sociable, easy to talk to... I'm envious of you for getting a rookie like that
b4: You're right. He speaks everything on his mind so it's easy to work with him. He's a good kid, and he's smart too.
b5: Hmmmm, so that's the kind of guy he is. I thought he'd be a duller person based on what he wrote
b6: He planned what he was going to write, but he's actually a really cheerful person
b7: In my opinion he is the ideal kind of author
b8: Mmhmm, planning what he writes... The calculative type like Ashirogi-kun
b9: ......... So he's a cheerful one despite writing that kind of work
b10: A calculative type, eh.........
b11: He said, "I'll write a kids version of 'Classroom of Truth'!"
b12: A kids version? What a thing for an 18-year-old kid to say. How reliable of him

16
x1: The next day, Monday
b1: Good Morning
b2: It's all that rookie's fault. This is no time to be waltzing in at this time going "good morning"!
b3: Look at this
b4: ?
b5: Th... This is!?
b6: Nanamine-kun uploaded his entire manuscript of "Classroom of Truth" onto his own blog
b7a: Eh......
b7b: You mean he actually scanned it beforehand...?
b8a: To make matters worse, he added comments like "This reached the final selection of Treasure" and "I was so sure I'd get in, it's a real pity"
b8b: Tens of thousands of people have seen this, and many of them have even commented on it

17
b1: Even so, most people who read it found it really interesting. It's really popular
b2a: No way. This isn't the time to be so carefree!
b2b: Everyone's saying the editorial division's full of idiots for not giving this guy a prize
b3: More importantly, there's a flood of calls all saying something to that effect!
b4: I... I'll make them stop right away
b5: It's way too late for that!
s1a: pi
s1b: pi
b6a: It must be this generation...
b6b: There's no malice in Nanamine-kun...
b6c: He just can't make a difference between what should go on record and what should stay off
s2: tururu...
b7a: He's not picking up... What is he doing?
b7b: Umm...
b8: His address should be on the back of the manuscript...
b9: Uwaa... He didn't write anything other than 18 years old and Tokyo City
b10: Why didn't you ask him when he came here? ... I really don't get it
a1: .........
a2: I guess I'm really unlucky after all.........

18
x1: It raised such a hue and cry it made the top news on the internet the next day
webpage tab: entertainment
webpage box: - Manga not chosen for Jump award uploaded
webpage words under picture: Manga was not chosen for Weekly Shounen Jump Treasure...
b1: Like I said, the manga was deemed to be unsuitable for a shounen magazine
b2: Nakaji, there's no need to say something like that. It was eliminated after going through a strict selection process
b3: In that case, why not apply to Shueisha to become an editor and do the judging yourself?
b4: Nanamine-kun!
b5: Oh, did you get him!?
b6: Ah, Kosugi-san. It seems like you called me a number of times, but I didn't know where I left my phone just now
b7a: Eh!? I can't upload it to my blog!? I thought it'd work like advertisement...
b7b: I told you "I'll make a new version that's suited for a shounen magazine", but you mean I can't do this!?
b8: ... Of course it's not okay! Please delete your blog this insta...
b9: Ehhhh!? I understand. I'm so sorr--
b10: See, he didn't have any malicious intentions, did he?

19
b1a: It became a really huge thing
b1b: It's really popular on the internet, and everyone thinks its really interesting.........
b2: But he can't just show it off like that, can he?
b3: It should be OK since he didn't get a prize and didn't have it published anywhere, right?
b4: No, he can't do that because as long as he got to the final selection, it means he won some prize money. In the first place, the results haven't even been published in the magazine yet, so he can't go public and say that he made the final selection.
b5: I see... But it'd be amazing if all this was part of his calculations as well, right?
b6: Calculations?
b7: Since his work is interesting, it's accepted by the majority of people, so the results are alright......
b8: "Classroom of Truth" is such a big topic now, Nanamine Tooru can even be considered a popular mangaka now
b9: !...
b10: "My editor got mad at me
b11: So I'll be closing this blog ()"
a1: Is this because of his youth!? This guy doesn't show any signs of remorse!!
s1: tan

572 ：名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい：2011/02/22(火) 23:00:25.58 ID:toYnQJAOP
ネタバレ
・七峰、“50人の協力者”にさっそく亜城木夢叶と対立した事を報告、
盛り上がって俄然やる気になる者もいる中、早くも「そんなつもりじゃ
なかった･･･」と2名の脱落者が出る･･･。
・一方、亜城木側は、PCPとっておきのエピソード『告白大作戦』のクライ
マックスを七峰の2話目にぶつけて勝負に出る算段をする。
・連載1話目の原稿が上がった七峰、新しく仕事場用に借りた広いマンションに
小杉を呼び出して原稿を読ませ、亜城木夢叶に勝てるかどうか“51人目”(減ってるけど)
としての意見を訊ねる。苦渋の表情ながらも答える小杉、
「亜城木先生に負けている点･････それは作画だ。特に背景はパースがおかしかったり
ムラがある」
「そう言うと思ってましたよ。だから2話目から凄腕のアシスタントに来てもらいました、
ネットで探したらすぐ見つかりましたよ、さっそく別室で作業を始めてもらっています」

“どんな背景でも資料も見ないであらゆる角度から描けて、
ベタフラなど、どんな効果も思いのままに描ける”
この男の正体はいったい！？

次回につづく！！


583 ：名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい：2011/02/23(水) 00:18:58.08 ID:aS4anjJtP
>>572ですケド、追加ネタバレ

・青樹にフラれたと思い込んだ平丸は人生をやめてしまおうかと
思い詰めるくらいに落ち込み吉田からの電話にも出ない始末。
危険を感じた吉田は直接マンションに訪れ「青樹先生が急遽
１日だけアシスタントに来てもらえないかって話が来てるんだが」
イッキに復活する平丸！！
・青樹の仕事場。デレデレと他の女性アシたちと作業する平丸
「青樹のいないところでアシに「青樹先生の何処に惹かれたんですか？」と
訊かれて、つい素直に「顔！」と答えてしまい、シラーッとした雰囲気に･･･。

- Nanamine reports on his confrontation with Ashirogi Muto to his 50 advisors, all of them get really excited. However, among the people who are all game for this, 2 people drop out, saying "We weren't intending for that to happen..."
- On the other hand, Ashirogi have decided to pit the climax of their well-received "Kokuhaku Daisakusen" (TN: Epic Proposal Operation, a play on Proposal Daisakusen, a J-drama) arc against Nanamine's 2nd chapter
-Nanamine submits the manuscript for his first serialization chapter, calling Kosugi over to the big apartment he's bought to use as his new workplace to read the manuscript. Nanamine asks Kosugi's opinion, as the 51st person (although their numbers have decreased), if they can win against Ashirogi Muto. With a strained face, Kosugi answers, "The area in which you lose to Ashirogi-sensei is... The artwork. Especially your backgrounds. They pass, but sometimes they're weird or inconsistent." Nanamine replies, "I thought as much. That's why I've asked a really skilled assistant to help me from the 2nd chapter onwards. I looked for one on the internet and found one instantly. I've already got him working in another room"

"No matter what background I need, he can draw it from whatever angle without looking at any reference material. He can even do betafura (TN: I need to think of a better way to translate this but these are the spiky bubbles done with tones like this), and can draw whatever he wants just as he imagines it."
Just who is this guy!?

-Hiramaru is so depressed over being dumped by Aoki that he is on the verge of committing suicide. He won't even answer Yoshida's calls to him. Knowing that Hiramaru is in a dangerous state, Yoshida goes straight to his apartment and says, "Aoki-sensei urgently needs an assistant just for today and is wondering if you can come! " Hiramaru instantly revives!!
-At Aoki's workplace. Hiramaru works with the other female assistants in that fawny manner of his. At a moment when Aoki is not around, an assistant asks him, "What do you like about Aoki-sensei?", and he blurts out, "her face!" and the atmosphere gets kinda weird...

- 1 week later
- "Yuuigi na~" second chapter is #2, third chapter is #9. "PCP" is #4.
- Most of the people who voted for "Yuuigi na~" on the surveys actually also voted for PCP, and they tended to vote PCP above Yuuigi na~
- Naturally Nanamine is shocked, but says that the 4th chapter's story's level will match even more with the readers. Even so, he finds being in 9th too much of a shock

- Not too sure what is happening in the 2nd image, looks like Nakai finds out about Hiramaru x Aoki. Epic face he has there.
- Seems to be 2 weeks after, as the early rankings for chapter 5 of Yuuigi na~ is #15. Basically Kosugi also says that this is the end and Nanamine better start thinking from square 1 again.
- Nanamine's saying something about wanting to try and read Ashirogi's names before hand. And something about Nakai (I think he means to make use of Nakai and his relationship with Ashirogi? Text is too small and blur to read properly). Then he realizes that if people find out that he's read Ashirogi's names beforehand, his career as a mangaka is pretty much screwed.
- Also seems like Nanamine only has 20-odd people left
- Nanamine's trying to literally meet Ashirogi head on - with the same story in the same issue of Jump. He believes he can win because he has 20+ people on his side

- Ashirogi turn him down. Shuujin rightly points out that Nanamine is just trying to grab at straws. Shuujin also says that they (Ashirogi) will continue to solidly do their PCP as they have always been doing
- Chapter ends with Nanamine looking very pissed off

On color page
- Putting our feelings into the tips of our fingers... And sending them as a message!
- title: Impatience and Reversal

- Nanamine decides that in order to carry out that plan of his, he's going to need to steal from Ashirogi
- He gets permission from EIC for him and Ashirogi to publish the same story in the same issue
- He wants to use this to show them the difference between him and them
- Kosugi reports back to Nanamine that he couldn't get the actual name from Ashirogi but he knows what the story will be about for their next arc and what issue it begins in
- Kosugi tells him that he absolutely must not try and publish his version of the same story earlier than Ashirogi and if Nanamine were to fail he must discuss with Kosugi when writing future chapters
- Nanamine says that for the first time, he's thankful to have Kosugi as his editor

I can't really read what the same story is they are going to write as its really blur but it's something about a student council president and the students doing something.